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Is This Some Kind of Joke????
« on: September 15, 2012, 05:23:48 AM »
So, I just signed up for the service. Extremely excited I created my first article and headed over to Copyscape.

The echo of "75% uniqueness guaranteed" from the sales video ringing in the back of my head I hit submit.

Seriously? Article Builder is either over saturated, or it is just compiling stuff from the internet which can be done with MUCH cheaper tools. What's the deal?

24 returns from Copyscape, 16 returns, and these are not small. 100 words, 64 words.  In the sales video Jonathan was surprised to see ONE return from Copyscape. I expected to have to change a sentence or two, maybe three or four FIVE? But when I have to rewrite the whole article this tool is worthless.

Please tell me there is something I am doing wrong?
« Last Edit: September 15, 2012, 05:57:05 AM by akg1221 »

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Re: Is This Some Kind of Joke????
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2012, 01:14:19 PM »
You are doing something wrong. ;)

Just a misunderstanding though.

It is not claimed that any content from AB will 'pass Copyscape' and for good reason, all the words used in creating AB content have been used before, or will be in the future. That's how AB works. A huge, and growing, database of spun content that is used to generate your articles.

But yes, the articles ARE unique.

None of the articles generated that, due to the AB methodology show up in Copyscape is duplicated, but parts of them are, as is to be expected. I am pretty damn sure that in no case is there more than a few percent present in your article as compared to any other single article in the Copyscape database.

The biggest mistake that people make is to use Copyscpape, a tool devised to indicate possible plagiarisms and content theft for something it is not intended to do: be used as a tool to indicate whether content will be indexed or well ranked by search engines.

What you need to be doing is NOT using Copyscape until you are concerned about content theft or plagiarism - neither will be an issue until you are creating your own content. :)

Concentrate instead upon building links to your content and getting it indexed and ranked, bearing in mind that you get help with that when you use the blog posting tool as all AB blog posts are run through an indexing service, and remember that the primary design purpose of AB content is for use in backlinking projects, but yeah, you, me and many others also use it in some of our own sites too. ;)

Re: Is This Some Kind of Joke????
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2012, 07:17:33 PM »
"all the words used in creating AB content have been used before, or will be in the future" - I am sure every word in the English dictionary has been used by now. But, that doesn't explain WHOLE paragraphs of 20%, 16% being what looks like scraped from a document and added to mine.

"the articles ARE unique" - No, there not. LOL. I could click the button to get an article from ANY category, put it into Copyscape and get back a MINIMUM of 15 findings from other articles on the web. And, this is NOT small words picked up. This is WHOLE paragraphs, as mentioned, of sometimes 20%+. THAT IS A HUGE PERCENTAGE. If I wanted that, I would use one of Jonathan's other tools like IAW.

"None of the articles generated that, due to the AB methodology show up in Copyscape is duplicated, but parts of them are, as is to be expected" - No, you right. It is just cramming other paragraphs from articles together. And, if it isn't, then it is completely over saturated with a used up database.

"I am pretty damn sure that in no case is there more than a few percent present in your article as compared to any other single article in the Copyscape database." -
read my next post, please.

I completely understand this is a tool used for backlinking, and I understand that Copyscape is to check for theft and plagarism. The problem I am STILL having is the completely deceiving sales page. There has not been ONE article spit out that doesn't have at least 50% of its content already on the net somewhere in CHUNKS of paragraphs. not just words picked up here and there. "75% unique garaunteed is a false claim", period.

Can someone please give me some insight on the guaranteed 75% uniqueness, the whole reason I bought this program. The words out of Jonathan's mouth was guaranteed, and at least a minimum of 75%. I could go click the button to spit out some articles and throw them in Copyscape to prove they are used up paragraphs of at LEAST 50% of what looks like scraped content (probably the over saturation, and not actually scrapping, I hope.)  but I would rather not over saturate the tool any more than it already is.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2012, 07:49:56 PM by akg1221 »

Re: Is This Some Kind of Joke????
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2012, 07:26:32 PM »
I just created an article in one of the less used (what I thought would be) catagories. 310 words. Threw into Copyscape.

15 returned results matching. The first one I click out of 15! 

"The comparison below was created by Copyscape, which checked 310 words of pasted text.

The page below has 76 words matching 25% of the text, as highlighted by Copyscape:"

We have already hit the guaranteed uniqueness and I still have 14 results to go through. Now I could do this all day in any catagory and gaurantee myself that it would be at least 50% used up text. I thought the high price was paying for human writers, but this just looks like another scarping tool to me. The guarantee was 75% unique, NOT the other way around.

Lastly, who has used this content for link building with success. At this point, since AB as a lot of content that is already used and huge segments are from tons of other content on the web, will they even get indexed? Anyone have some thoughts on this.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2012, 07:37:00 PM by akg1221 »

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Re: Is This Some Kind of Joke????
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2012, 08:20:40 PM »
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The page below has 76 words matching 25% of the text, as highlighted by Copyscape


100 -  25 = 75% unique. That fits within the guarantee.

No two articles generated by AB, when compared to each other, will be less than 75% unique.

If you are expecting less than 25% duplication of any piece of text across the entire Web, then you are misunderstanding how AB works. In order to accomplish that the service would need to be orders of magnitude more expensive.

As to whether Google indexes pages that are 75%+ unique, go check the index for my test blog at jonleger.com/testblog

My check shows 264 indexed pages.

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Re: Is This Some Kind of Joke????
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2012, 08:32:18 PM »
One more thing. Be sure you check the Use Super Spun Content checkbox when generating the articles for maximum uniqueness. If you are getting whole paragraphs in Copyscape, you aren't using super spun content.

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Re: Is This Some Kind of Joke????
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2012, 08:39:24 PM »
"100 -  25 = 75% unique. That fits within the guarantee " - I think you missed the rest of that post? There are 14 more found exerpts matching, the second after that 25% was 16% copied text

"No two articles generated by AB, when compared to each other, will be less than 75% unique. If you are expecting less than 25% duplication of any piece of text across the entire Web, then you are misunderstanding how AB works." -

This is where I misunderstood the system. You are correct. In the sales video I could have swore you said 75% guarantee based on Copyscape, which I understood as basically, the entire web.

I''l check out the test now. Thanks for that. But, as far as the Spun content checkbox, when I click it for my specific niche that I am working in now it says it's not available.  (EDIT: Got this one figured out) Thanks for clearing up some stuff here.

« Last Edit: September 15, 2012, 08:54:53 PM by akg1221 »

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Re: Is This Some Kind of Joke????
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2012, 09:21:31 PM »
Yes, 75% uniqueness based on Copyscape for any individual matching page it finds. Not 75% unique after adding up all the percentages from every matching page.

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Re: Is This Some Kind of Joke????
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2012, 10:44:55 PM »
Awesome answer. I like to admit when I am wrong so I will do that now. As Andrew first suggested it was a bit of a misunderstanding on my part. I now understand it is now two articles inside of AB will be 75% unique. I do wish it was on the entire web of course, but also understand that would cost a lot more.

Lastly,  after messing with the advanced features inside AB and bringing it into TBS and adding my settings there I have managed to come up with some pretty ridiculous content. I just generated 50 articles in TBS and I am getting huge uniqueness %s, 99%, 95%.. Good stuff. Plus, it read pretty amazing too. There are always a few errors here and there but after my AB + TBS tweaks....

Copyscape passes with 0 results now

I think I will be getting a ton of use out of AB, now. Heh. Thanks Andrew, Thanks Jonathan, for your informative and quick responses.

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Re: Is This Some Kind of Joke????
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2012, 11:03:35 PM »
It's a pleasure. Cool thing is you worked through and showed yourself. Always the best way. :)

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Re: Is This Some Kind of Joke????
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2012, 12:12:17 AM »
You're very welcome.

The fact that you were willing to listen and analyze what you were doing, then put that to practical use, sets you head and shoulders above most people in this business. Keep that attitude and you'll succeed for sure.

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