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Anyone else TERMINATED from Youtube lately?
« on: June 06, 2012, 12:22:05 AM »
Over the weekend I uploaded several review videos to Youtube. I really didn't do much more than upload them, add a title, and tags. The idea was to get the uploading out of the way, and work on the videos later in the week (today).

To my surprise, when I tried to log into Youtube (owned by Google, you know) today, I discovered my account terminated.  I contacted YT, and was told one of the videos (of 8 I uploaded) violated "community guidelines". When I clicked on the video link I saw a note with "Sorry, blah blah blah spam, blah blah deceptive commercial content".

I did some research. This has been happening to a lot of people lately - in fact some very influential people like Darren Rose of Problogger. Some get their account terminated (note - NOT suspended), and then get it back again in a few days or weeks (depending on how much they bitch, I guess).

This post was eye opening, however (http://howtobuildyouronlineempire.com/blog/my-youtube-account-terminated/). In it, Josh Zamora reveals something that jibes with some of the conspiracy theories regarding Panda/Penguin. He suggests that 1) Youtube has a MASSIVE advertising platform with their PAID embedded ads in videos, and 2) they don't make money off of affiliates who are essentially advertising on Youtube for FREE. In other words, they want us to  buy advertising on little Susie's cute puppy video rather than creating our own promotional videos.

Makes sense to me. And makes me look at Panda/Penguin in a new conspiratorial light. If Google has decided that affiliates should not be making money using Google's services for free (organic search, youtube), then we are all screwed.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2012, 06:40:50 AM by wwday3 »

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Re: Anyone else TERMINATED from Youtube lately?
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2012, 01:03:33 AM »
The free ride is coming to an end. That is for sure.

That is not to say that it will not be possible, or economically viable, to run an AM biz using organic methods but the question that YouTube users need to ask is this: Why should Google give away its traffic to people who want to make money from it?
Factor into the response the appallingly low quality of the content in many cases - who needs to see another Powerpoint presentation over ripped off music (?) where the content is simply text for viewers to read?

And yes, your videos may have been great, the best of their type, featuring a presenter in a studio interacting with the items being 'reviewed' and the audience behind the 4th wall (but they weren't were they?) but most are not, so Google's staff have to spend resources cleaning up the daily barrage of rubbish, their job made harder by the latest in a slew of automated tools sold for the price of a pizza that enables the wholesale production of spam 'video'.

Charging for access to the eyeballs collected by Google is entirely reasonable and paying for that traffic will force sellers to make their content worthy of proofitable conversion, to upgrade from visual spam. If you make good quality content you should be urging Google to charge and be in the queue to pay for that traffic.

If you think that this is an unreasonable perspective, try going to your local TV station and ask for their rate card for a similar audience. Whatever it may be, the rate will not be 'free'.

« Last Edit: June 06, 2012, 01:05:31 AM by andrewwilson »

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Re: Anyone else TERMINATED from Youtube lately?
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2012, 07:02:37 AM »
Oh, the videos weren't great by any means. Nor were they crappy. I'm not going to whine and say "Ooooh, Youtube terminated me for no reason - I wasn't doing anything... etc. etc". No, I know that what I was doing was "on the edge" of their TOS - using them as a parking place and giant video player for one of my sites.

The point, however, is that YouTube (and Google for that matter) have an unspoken PARTNERSHIP with people who contribute to to their services. In other words, they need us as much as we need them. Without OUR content, THEY would not be in business. Certainly, I think they have a right to filter crappy stuff out as they see fit, and if I'd received an email that said "We'd rather you didn't keep those videos here - you've been warned" I would have taken them down and gone on with something else. I'm not unreasonable.

(And, I did receive an email informing me I was terminated and it referenced the video in question, so I know email warnings could be done quite easily).

But, absolute termination without any kind of warning or real explanation borders on nazi tactics, in my opinion. "Vengeance is mine saith YouTube." Not only are they dismissing me and slandering me in a way, but now what happens when a visitor clicks on a completely innocent video I have uploaded to one of my sites? "Sorry, you can't watch this video because we TERMINATED this user (for something completely unrelated to this)".

This is just one more example of how Google has basically gotten too big for their britches.

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Re: Anyone else TERMINATED from Youtube lately?
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2012, 07:12:43 AM »
Yes, but you made the point about Google wanting to charge for access to their traffic. If you are correct, and I am sure that you are, then you can't expect that, as a trend, Google will do anything other than take action to try to remove free access to their eyeballs. So, your vids get ads embedded on them, low quality material (in YouTube's opinion) will be removed and high cost accounts will be deleted.

Be honest, does the world really need another 'review' video of some onky ponky acne cure?
You KNOW the answer. :)

You might argue that the world has no need of any more dancing cat videos too, but the thing is that the great unwashed watch the bloody things in their droves, demonstrating that there IS a need for such stuff and the makers of such vids are not, on the whole doing so in order to get folks to spend money on something or get the viewer to go visit a site outside of YouTube.

So the suggestion that Google needs you is simply incorrect, they NEED Judy from Ohio and her Kute Katz Vidz but they don't need you at all.

So, to continue the comparison between YouTube and broadcast TV: If there is a posse of dancing cats the TV station will send out a cute reporter and a video guy to make a segment about them. You, on the other hand will NEVER get on the air without paying to do so. You need their eyeballs, they don't need your 'reviews'.

That's they way it is.

Of course, if you go the extra mile then you will have no problem. Remember 'Will It Blend?' a series of commercials for a blender brand that, for almost no money, got huge traffic and I'd lay odds that the YouTube folks were as cooperative as hell because the blender guy gave value to YouTube.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2012, 12:09:41 AM by andrewwilson »

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Re: Anyone else TERMINATED from Youtube lately?
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2012, 07:34:14 PM »
Sorry, didn't know there was a reply.

My point about Google needing me is that Google needs ALL of us. It's a two-way street. We give Google content, they use it to provide search results. Hopefully, we get traffic. A virtual circle of life.

Heck, Google has been using "scraped content" from my websites for years.

And now, it appears that Google is throwing EVERYONE under the bus.

http://www.seobook.com/paid-inclusion

Bing, here we come?

Re: Anyone else TERMINATED from Youtube lately?
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2012, 01:32:07 PM »
 Youtube is banned in China and I can't watch it. I had an account/profile there ago, but now I can't use it anymore.

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Re: Anyone else TERMINATED from Youtube lately?
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2012, 10:18:24 PM »
If your videos had reviews about Companies. Those companies don't like when you review their company. If you write their company name in your title its copyright infringement. Which is pretty retarded.. Its freedom of speech. As long as you don't talk crap about them. Also, Never write the word "scam" near a company name.. Thats a red flag right there and they'll track your channel name and either delete your videos or delete your whole channel.

Beware! Don't do those types of reviews Youtube and Certain Companies will HATE You!