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Continued SEO
« on: July 10, 2013, 10:26:51 AM »
After the initial campaigns for the Niche Jet sites, what do you suggest we do to continue creating backlinks.  I know that with the Articlebuilder articles, backlinks are created with the auto-posting feature, but is there anything we should do in addition to that?

Dan
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Re: Continued SEO
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2013, 10:52:25 AM »
Hi Dan,

We actually do another SEO campaign. It's about to start over the next few days to a week, depending on where your order (s) falls into the queue. So I would hold off for another month or so before doing any of your own link building.

Josh

Re: Continued SEO
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2013, 09:56:16 PM »
Actually the second campaign already started for my sites.  What I am thinking about is afterwards.  Even though I am aware that articles being posted from AB are automatically backlinked via BacklinkIndexer.com, after viewing Amin Motin's Webinar replay on Backlink Beast, I am considering purchasing it to continue building backlinks after the initial 100 days of posts on my sites.  Besides continuing using AB's auto posting feature, I also plan other posts on my sites, that will be using AB content, but which I have posting on my sites via an autoblogging plugin in order to vary the look of the content on my sites.  I was thinking about what Amin said in his webinar on backlinks to my backlinks.  If I used Backlink Beast to create say 100-200 tier 1 backlinks a month per site and further create tier 2 and tier 3 links to these tier 1 links, would that appear to be too much in the eyes of Bing and Google or should I be thinking on a smaller scale?
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Re: Continued SEO
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2013, 06:37:50 PM »
The key is to be consistent in your back linking.  If you want to post 200 links do not create 200 back links in one day and do nothing the rest of the month.  Spread them out so that on one day you build 10 back links, on another day 5 back links, but by the end of the month you have created some back links every day so that your totally for the month equals around 200 back links.

Then in the second month, do the same thing.  After doing this for a few months, once you reach the first page of Google for your prime keyword, you can cut back on the number of back links you build.

And by the way, 200 back links a month is not very aggressive if you spread them out over the month.  For EMD domains I build 200-300 back links per month for the first six months, then cut back to 100 back links per month forever.  For non-EMD domains I will build a 1000 back links for the first three four months, then slowly taper down to 100-200 back links per month.

Another key is to not over use your prime keyword as the anchor text in your back links.  Vary it with LSI keywords and junk keywords such as "click here" or "visit my site".  The percentages are still being argued as to what is best but I use 10% keyword, 60% LSI word and 30% junk words for my EMD domains, for my non-EMD domains I use 30% Keyword, 50% LSI word and 20% junk words.

Other people use different percentages so take the percentages you like and test what works for you.  I will not discuss the issue of what percentage is best in this forum, I will only tell you what is working for me.

Re: Continued SEO
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2013, 07:51:59 PM »
Thank you!  Sounds like a very good plan.  Once the second link building campaign is complete, I'll follow the guidelines you are using.

Dan
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Re: Continued SEO
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2013, 09:37:21 PM »
The key is to be consistent in your back linking.  If you want to post 200 links do not create 200 back links in one day and do nothing the rest of the month.  Spread them out so that on one day you build 10 back links, on another day 5 back links, but by the end of the month you have created some back links every day so that your totally for the month equals around 200 back links.
Then in the second month, do the same thing.  After doing this for a few months, once you reach the first page of Google for your prime keyword, you can cut back on the number of back links you build.
And by the way, 200 back links a month is not very aggressive if you spread them out over the month.  For EMD domains I build 200-300 back links per month for the first six months, then cut back to 100 back links per month forever.  For non-EMD domains I will build a 1000 back links for the first three four months, then slowly taper down to 100-200 back links per month.
Another key is to not over use your prime keyword as the anchor text in your back links.  Vary it with LSI keywords and junk keywords such as "click here" or "visit my site".  The percentages are still being argued as to what is best but I use 10% keyword, 60% LSI word and 30% junk words for my EMD domains, for my non-EMD domains I use 30% Keyword, 50% LSI word and 20% junk words.
Other people use different percentages so take the percentages you like and test what works for you.  I will not discuss the issue of what percentage is best in this forum, I will only tell you what is working for me.

I do not see a thank you on this post, however it is very informative!

So, thank you Ed, I appreciate this information (and needed it).

SE|O is still a totally blank for me~ I know it does not make sense, I am smart, educated, and computer literate... Yet have a total mental block when it comes to SEO.

Every-time I think I have learned something, shabang... gone!

HoneyJo

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Re: Continued SEO
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2013, 10:01:38 PM »
Now something else came to mind, Ed. those 200-300 backlinks a month for the initial six months your site is up, I would imagine these are tier 1 backlinks.  Not sure how you are creating your backlinks, like I mentioned earlier in the thread, I plan to purchase backlink beast soon.  The question would be then how many tier 2 and tier 3 links?  Though I would imagine you'll need to be somewhat conservation in your tier 2 and tier 3 links also, that's I am holding off on my purchase until Amin has his follow up webinar on Backlink Beast (though I should probably go ahead a purchase it, so I can start learning how to use it properly).  If you don't mind answering another question Ed, if you do tier 2 and tier 3 backlinking, how many do you generally do in each case?

thanks for the input
Dan
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Re: Continued SEO
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2013, 06:46:55 AM »
Actually the second campaign already started for my sites.  What I am thinking about is afterwards.  Even though I am aware that articles being posted from AB are automatically backlinked via BacklinkIndexer.com, after viewing Amin Motin's Webinar replay on Backlink Beast, I am considering purchasing it to continue building backlinks after the initial 100 days of posts on my sites.  Besides continuing using AB's auto posting feature, I also plan other posts on my sites, that will be using AB content, but which I have posting on my sites via an autoblogging plugin in order to vary the look of the content on my sites.  I was thinking about what Amin said in his webinar on backlinks to my backlinks.  If I used Backlink Beast to create say 100-200 tier 1 backlinks a month per site and further create tier 2 and tier 3 links to these tier 1 links, would that appear to be too much in the eyes of Bing and Google or should I be thinking on a smaller scale?

I don't think that would be too much as long as there aren't tens of thousand of tier ones. You can have as many tier 2 or 3 as you want. They just pass authority to the tier one. You just don't want to overdo the tier 1 links because those are the ones that are associated with your site, directly linking to it.

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Re: Continued SEO
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2013, 05:34:09 PM »
Every-time I think I have learned something, shabang... gone!

Google does that to all of us.  :)  That's why I try to spend a couple of hours each day in SEO forums and am constantly buying new software to try to stay ahead of the game.

And just when I get to feeling comfortable, Google changes the rules again.  :(


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Re: Continued SEO
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2013, 05:44:01 PM »
Now something else came to mind, Ed. those 200-300 backlinks a month for the initial six months your site is up, I would imagine these are tier 1 backlinks.  Not sure how you are creating your backlinks, like I mentioned earlier in the thread, I plan to purchase backlink beast soon.  The question would be then how many tier 2 and tier 3 links?  Though I would imagine you'll need to be somewhat conservation in your tier 2 and tier 3 links also, that's I am holding off on my purchase until Amin has his follow up webinar on Backlink Beast (though I should probably go ahead a purchase it, so I can start learning how to use it properly).  If you don't mind answering another question Ed, if you do tier 2 and tier 3 backlinking, how many do you generally do in each case?

thanks for the input
Dan

I don't know anything about Backlink Beast so I can't advise you on it.

I use SENuke Xr, Scrapebox and CommentLuv to build my back links.  I use SENuke templates from zontseo.com to build my back links.  So I really don't worry about Tier 1, etc. as that is all taken care of by the templates.  While most recommend running seven or ten day campaigns with SENuke I generally set up 30 day campaigns so the back links drip in over the entire month.  I have one desktop that is only used to run SENuke.  (If you decide to buy any of these I would appreciate you using my affiliate links for the purchase.  I think Jonathan may have a good offer if you buy SENuke through his affiliate link)

I also like Licorne AIO for back links but I am just learning it.  It is not as good as SENuke on Tier 1 sites yet but it does a lot of other things so you don't need to buy as many other software tools as you do with SENuke.

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Re: Continued SEO
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2013, 03:16:36 AM »
Now something else came to mind, Ed. those 200-300 backlinks a month for the initial six months your site is up, I would imagine these are tier 1 backlinks.  Not sure how you are creating your backlinks, like I mentioned earlier in the thread, I plan to purchase backlink beast soon.  The question would be then how many tier 2 and tier 3 links?  Though I would imagine you'll need to be somewhat conservation in your tier 2 and tier 3 links also, that's I am holding off on my purchase until Amin has his follow up webinar on Backlink Beast (though I should probably go ahead a purchase it, so I can start learning how to use it properly).  If you don't mind answering another question Ed, if you do tier 2 and tier 3 backlinking, how many do you generally do in each case?

thanks for the input
Dan


I don't know anything about Backlink Beast so I can't advise you on it.

I use SENuke Xr, Scrapebox and CommentLuv to build my back links.  I use SENuke templates from zontseo.com to build my back links.  So I really don't worry about Tier 1, etc. as that is all taken care of by the templates.  While most recommend running seven or ten day campaigns with SENuke I generally set up 30 day campaigns so the back links drip in over the entire month.  I have one desktop that is only used to run SENuke.  (If you decide to buy any of these I would appreciate you using my affiliate links for the purchase.  I think Jonathan may have a good offer if you buy SENuke through his affiliate link)

I also like Licorne AIO for back links but I am just learning it.  It is not as good as SENuke on Tier 1 sites yet but it does a lot of other things so you don't need to buy as many other software tools as you do with SENuke.


Amin Motin has a free site http://trainingvideoswebinars.com where you can watch him try out various pieces of software. He did a webinar on backlink beast in April. You have to register (free) but then you can access all the webinars, etc for free. Check out the backlink beast webinar under "replays". They are in chronological order and it was done in April 2013.

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Re: Continued SEO
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2013, 06:52:38 AM »
SE|O is still a totally blank for me~ I know it does not make sense, I am smart, educated, and computer literate... Yet have a total mental block when it comes to SEO.

Every-time I think I have learned something, shabang... gone!

HoneyJo

Hi Honeyjo,

I couldn't sleep too well last night (very warm here, we are not used to it  ;D) and started thinking about what SEO really was. It seemed to me that a web site was rather like a small kitten that needed cherished and fed. (Or any other small animal if you don't like cats, or even a baby or a virtual pet if you don't want an analogy to something alive  ::).)

So I wrote this PDF. See if it makes sense  ???. Happy enough for anyone else to comment or make suggestions too. Enjoy!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/c531cgu8uke7cjp/SEO.pdf

Re: Continued SEO
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2013, 11:55:07 AM »
I decided to go ahead and purchase a copy of Backlink Beast and I have been experimentling with it a little.  At first it was a little confusing, but they do have a few training videos.  Should you decided to buy it, be forewarned that there are two upsells, one was for LinkPipeline (which I signed up for $47/month) and another for Recon (I think) which I didn't sign up for, it was for $97.
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Re: Continued SEO
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2013, 06:32:43 AM »
Pretty disappointed with Backlink Beast.  >:( It is good for someone who has 1 or 2 websites, but if you have alot of websites, like Ed has, it won't do you much good.  You can only set up 1 scheduled tiered backlinking campaign at a time, so it pretty much doesn't work for me.  I wanted something in which I would be able to set up scheduled campaigns for each website - this is what Ed sounds like he's doing.
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Re: Continued SEO
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2013, 07:06:43 AM »
I wanted something in which I would be able to set up scheduled campaigns for each website - this is what Ed sounds like he's doing.

This is exactly what I do, as I am a BIG believer in constant promotion.  I don't reinvent the wheel each time as you can reuse the campaigns.  You simply change the spin-able article each time and run it again. 

I do update the list of sites every month before I start the month's promotions.  So I have different urls being created all the time.  You don't need to over do this.  You do not want to create thousands of back links in one month as very few sites can do this.  So it does not look natural to Google.

It is best to be constant in your link building, vary the amount build each day and build new links every month. 

To succeed you need to start with quality keyword research.  Then you need to test the keywords chosen.  Once the domain hits the second page of Google add quality content.  After you add quality content, promote the site every month.  Once the site hits the first page of Google, cut back on promotion to around 100 new links per month and add one-two quality articles per month.

If you have done a good job of keyword selection this will work.  If you choose to target more difficult keywords it will take longer, require more promotion and more quality articles.  If you do decide to go after moderate or hard keywords, buy the EMD if available.  Then use easy to rank LSI keywords for your initial articles instead of the EMD keyword. 

Once the LSI keywords reach the first page of Google then start writing articles for your prime keyword.  This is much easier than trying to rank for the EMD keyword if it is rated moderate or hard.