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« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2012, 06:10:04 AM »
I also tried using the keywords for my own sites. They did not show up in this search engine although on Bing, Yahoo and Google I get first page results.  Apparently, something is working that I am doing with the way the search engines are now.

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« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2012, 06:12:44 AM »
I also tried using the keywords for my own sites. They did not show up in this search engine although on Bing, Yahoo and Google I get first page results.  Apparently, something is working that I am doing with the way the search engines are now.

Am I right in assuming that you use "traditional" seo methods (link building) as your primary way to rank? If so, that's why your site doesn't rank in my engine. It focuses on other metrics as well, though links still play a part.

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« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2012, 06:20:58 AM »
OK, I did a "real" search because we are currently looking for a log store. These are the results from Google and Ediserps

Search term: Build a log store

Google
185,000,000 results.
2 paid ads at top
8 ads down the side

Top results were:
1.
(Youtube video)
2.
Youtube video)
3. http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=1378507 (authority website - finance)
4. http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=260272 (DIY projects forum)
All 4 top results were directly related to what I searched for.

Ediserps
45,500,000 results
4 paid for ads at the top
5 ads down the side
Top results were:
#1 is same as on Google - but it won't open from this page, though it opens ok from the Google page which I still had open.
2. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7864151/version-mismatch-in-xcactivitylog-after-upgrading-to-xcode-4-2 It wouldn't let me see it until I agreed to remove "frames". It does NOT match wanted reslts for me.
3. Same result as #2 above but again would not let me open it although again, I could open it from the Google page
4. www.ehow.com/how_6694229_build-log-storage-rack.html It came up fine but I couldn't copy the address from the url bar, as it remains at EdiSERP

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« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2012, 06:26:52 AM »
I did a search of a couple of local terms.  I found that 80% of the first 3 pages were either listings from BBB or yellow pages, and some video pages.  If I was looking for local search and found most of the pages were like this I would go back to Google.  As far as I am concerned both the BBB and the yellow pages should only have one listing, if I don't click on the first one why would I click on numbers 2-25? 

The non local searches that I did brought back a lot of video.  As I am pretty good at searching I would prefer there was no video, if I wanted video I would search through a video directory.  I know not everybody thinks like that, just my opinion. 

Thanks,

Re: Testing Google Custom Search - Your feedback is requested.
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2012, 06:29:22 AM »
Jon,
to be honest I find really hard to judge this need search engine.
Obviously everyone of us is comparing the results using their sites, and this makes it not really objective.
I did it myself and I found the following point that maybe can be of interest for you.
I did a search for one of the keyword of a site of a client and the site results to be at #3 on EdiSERP and on Google #2, fine not a big deal, the thing I found incorrect though is that at #2 of EdiSERP there is a YouTube video, which is a promotional video, not giving any real information on the subject. ???
The same at #6 & #8 with two FB pages and at 10 a Google+ page not really informative. :o
Hope this can help you. :)
Ciao
Fabio

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« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2012, 06:35:13 AM »
Thanks guys. I've already got some refinements in mind that should correct these issues.

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« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2012, 06:40:13 AM »
Jon,
to be honest I find really hard to judge this need search engine.
Obviously everyone of us is comparing the results using their sites, and this makes it not really objective.
I did it myself and I found the following point that maybe can be of interest for you.
I did a search for one of the keyword of a site of a client and the site results to be at #3 on EdiSERP and on Google #2, fine not a big deal, the thing I found incorrect though is that at #2 of EdiSERP there is a YouTube video, which is a promotional video, not giving any real information on the subject. ???
The same at #6 & #8 with two FB pages and at 10 a Google+ page not really informative. :o
Hope this can help you. :)
Ciao
Fabio

It would really help if you posted the keywords in question so I can look. Thanks!

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« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2012, 07:59:49 AM »
Ok Jon,
I searched for "compro oro perugia"

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« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2012, 08:04:43 AM »
Ok Jon,
I searched for "compro oro perugia"

Ah, ok. This engine is currently focused on English results.

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Re: Testing Google Custom Search - Your feedback is requested.
« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2012, 08:10:03 AM »
Jon,

Position on most of my keywords dumped anywhere from 1 - 3 pages - including words that have consistantly scored high since 2002

also I would miss the "related to" feature at the bottom of the Google pages, since that tends to help me when i am having a serious brain strain problem and my thinking has thunked

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« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2012, 08:39:41 AM »
 :) Hi Jon:
I liked your custom search. I was able to find exactly what I was looking for without having to read through lots of posts. One negative is the presence of Google Ads (pink shaded area); if you could deep six those, it would be even better. Kudos on your experiment!  ;D

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« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2012, 09:21:00 AM »
Hi Jon,
What is it that your search engine is focusing on. I am not quite sure as of now.
I have been doing Traditional On Page SEO like Title, Description, H1, keywords in content etc along with traditional link building. I rank well for keywords Hostels in Delhi, Cheap Hostels in Delhi, Budget Accommodation in Delhi and related keywords (mostly on page 1) for my site www.smyleinn.com. However on your search engine, I am on page 3 or page 4. Just wanted to understand, what exactly is your search engine looking for?

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« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2012, 03:05:53 PM »
I entered the -primary keyword of a site that was doing well before Penguin/Panda but got trashed.

I haven't got around to doing much to rejuventa

Re: Testing Google Custom Search - Your feedback is requested.
« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2012, 03:49:22 PM »
let's just say that I'm giving sites a boost that have actual human "votes" in their favor (instead of just links).

Not impressed with this idea, that is if you are meaning "votes" to mean g+ or Yelp votes or FB likes.  And frankly, neither is google.  The problems with this are clearly manifest, since they are mostly manipulated - just like back linking.

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Re: Testing Google Custom Search - Your feedback is requested.
« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2012, 04:41:38 PM »
On your engine, using terms such as "how to build a dog house", I found the results removed a lot of the youtube junk that clutters up Google.  I found that both provided relative listings related to the requested subject but your engine provide more than Google on the first page due to the youtube listings of Google.

However as to the concept of using "human" votes for the site, those are for sale at fiverr.com so personally do not rate this method any more reliable than back links to judge worth of site.

As a marketer, I am more interested in being able to design for search engine positioning than I am in providing for "pure" search results.