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Private Niche Empire
« on: October 13, 2012, 05:55:45 AM »
Hi Jon,
Hope this is the correct place to post this comment.
I have purchased Article Builder, Keyword Canine, The Best Spinner, Instant Article Wizard, and Jiffy Articles --- all on your recommendations. I love them all.
A couple of days ago you sent an email to your list about PNE (Private Niche Empire).
Last year at this time you sent a similar email about PNE. So on your recommendation I bought it and paid the monthly fee for about six months.
The websites look slick and beautiful; but I canceled because the keywords were deplorable. I thought the name of the game was low competition keywords. If the keywords were put through Keyword Canine most would have come up as HARD or FIERCE.
Have you ever tried it yourself?
Can one really make money with it using those keywords? Or do only affiliates make money on PNE?
I wanted to try it again. It was tempting but decided against it.
I am disappointed with PNE but, for the benefit of the doubt, maybe I'm doing something wrong.
Hope I didn't come across as too critical.
Thank you so much.
Murrey Donaldson

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Re: Private Niche Empire
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2012, 06:08:22 AM »
Murray,

Have you tried contacting them directly regarding your concern?

Jon

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Re: Private Niche Empire
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2012, 03:04:07 PM »
Jon, you have Andrew Wilson offering a similar service elsewhere in the forum.

I discovered this after I, too, signed up for PNE.

Do you have anywhere some other user testimony on PNE so I can try to evaluate each.  The post from Murray creates concern, needless to say.

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Re: Private Niche Empire
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2012, 03:51:57 PM »
It ought to be clear that the sites are old designs. The recent updates have heavily discounted ads above the fold.

That made me realize this offer probably wasnt that grand.

Re: Private Niche Empire
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2012, 04:07:17 PM »
Hi Jon,
Hope this is the correct place to post this comment.
I have purchased Article Builder, Keyword Canine, The Best Spinner, Instant Article Wizard, and Jiffy Articles --- all on your recommendations. I love them all.
A couple of days ago you sent an email to your list about PNE (Private Niche Empire).
Last year at this time you sent a similar email about PNE. So on your recommendation I bought it and paid the monthly fee for about six months.
The websites look slick and beautiful; but I canceled because the keywords were deplorable. I thought the name of the game was low competition keywords. If the keywords were put through Keyword Canine most would have come up as HARD or FIERCE.
Have you ever tried it yourself?
Can one really make money with it using those keywords? Or do only affiliates make money on PNE?
I wanted to try it again. It was tempting but decided against it.
I am disappointed with PNE but, for the benefit of the doubt, maybe I'm doing something wrong.
Hope I didn't come across as too critical.
Thank you so much.
Murrey Donaldson

Jon
I saw your reply suggesting Murrey contact PNE directly
But could you also please address the questions above about your own experience with PNE
Thanks
Tom

Re: Private Niche Empire
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2012, 04:09:29 PM »
It ought to be clear that the sites are old designs. The recent updates have heavily discounted ads above the fold.

That made me realize this offer probably wasnt that grand.

Excuse my ignorance here but does that mean ads should now be below the fold? What about adsense in the side-bars?

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Re: Private Niche Empire
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2012, 04:19:32 PM »
Excuse my ignorance here but does that mean ads should now be below the fold? What about adsense in the side-bars?

The trick is to have 'real content' above the fold. The trick with this style of site used to be to cram as much Adsense as possible into the top of the site on the basis that if the ads were decent then nobody would bother to read further down the page. These days we try to, at least, have a mix of content and ads. So, for example, if I put a banner or other selly stuff at the top there will also be plenty of content nearby. The compromise used by the PNE sites is likely near to optimum for the layout.

So, a sidebar ad unit is OK but I'd not usually put one right at the top on a two column style, on a 3 column style one ad at the top of the column is OK with the others lower down. Let the readers see what the site is about and make the site about the content and not the ads. Also, where possible try to make the in-article ads move around the articles in a semi-random fashion - it decreases ad-blindness where readers learn to ignore ads that are always in the same place on a page.
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Re: Private Niche Empire
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2012, 04:31:38 PM »
Thanks Andrew

I am using the heatmap theme so I am not sure if I can randomise any in article ad layouts as you suggest - will have to read read the theme guide.

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Re: Private Niche Empire
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2012, 05:07:13 PM »
In Wordpress having the ads move around a little is dead easy. I came across the technique about five years ago and there was only one choice of plugin, now there are quite a few. I use a plugin called Ad Injection in the sites I make. It can manage your in-content ads really well. Not so easy to do in static HTML sites though.

Re: Private Niche Empire
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2012, 05:13:48 PM »
This is an interesting thread as I went for the PNE bait this time around.. OK, so I was in the mood to buy "something". My first thought was, how in the hell is this going to work? I mean, so many of the same sites being pumped out. But then I realized, well, I can customized the things by moving this and that around. Will that work? No idea whatsoever. But more importantly I figure (as they point out in the instructions) it's going to take time to get these things ranked if they ever DO get ranked in the search engines. And I suspect most people putting these sites up will just tweak, upload and forget 'em. I'm planning to do a bit more by going for some paid (oops, there's that nasty word!) advertising and see what happens. Along with some tweaking with the RSS feeds (as well as customizing my own feeds) and so forth, linked to articles in the directories as "Resource pages". Forum postings, social bookmarking, etc., Oh, and I intend to make ample use of Trust Jacker as well.

Now if all that I have planned doesn't produce the occasional winner out of the 60 sites per year promised? Well, I'll just put a hatchet to everything and write it all off as one more learning experience on the Internet Marketing Highway of High Hopes and Failed Promises. No one really believes it's as easy as these guys make it sound, now do you? I thought not.  8)

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Re: Private Niche Empire
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2012, 10:44:26 PM »
I have more than a nodding acquaintance with PNE, it's earlier version Article Explosion and its owner. This is a membership that is in business from 2006 with a number of long time members who all swear by the value of the membership as well as have good word about the owner.

I am not a member for quite some time now. But my experience is that these sites work especially for newbies. But like all other sites, one has to work on the traffic part.

PNE sites because of how they are created work very similar to wordpress sites.

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Re: Private Niche Empire
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2012, 01:57:54 AM »
It ought to be clear that the sites are old designs. The recent updates have heavily discounted ads above the fold.

That made me realize this offer probably wasnt that grand.


The software used to make these sites has been around since god was a lad. It used to be sold with MRR for a few dollars. It means the sites will never look 'modern' as the style was current in 2006 and the world has moved on. In the end though the content is the thing and the navigation is easy for users. For the webmaster, adding new content is as easy as writing an article in text format and dropping it into a folder on his web server. The content instantly pops up in the navigation, sitemap etc and so it is about the easiest way for newbies to have sites that 'work'. It is the content that you add yourself, or rewrite from that supplied that will drill into niches and unlock any potential success.

The real value of the offer is likely in the bits you DON'T see - any support and training offered.

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Re: Private Niche Empire
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2012, 03:29:55 AM »
Andrew,

Both your offer and PNE provide ready sites. But they are for different sets of people. While PNE gives out 5 sites each month (previously, 10 sites a month) to a max 125 people your sites are unique and ready to go. PNE sites will require some customization for best results.

Quality of content is quite good. There are aspects of PNE which are unique which I cannot discuss here. But without customization and some work on traffic nothing will work. There are quite a few PNE members loyal to the membership from July 2006. And all of them would not be doing charity.

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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2012, 03:17:09 PM »
Has anyone had any success with this and is satisfied with this product?

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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2012, 04:00:57 PM »
snm, I do not think I was knocking PNE. I doubt that anything I wrote was not correct including that success comes from the effort that goes into attaining the success.

By the way, it is stretching things more than a little to suggest that sites made with the tool behind the PNE offer are in any real sense comparable in scope and functionality with sites made using WordPress or other CMS's. They are what they are and they function well within their limitations. I do not regret buying the sitebuilding software that seems to be used in PNE a few years ago, I learned from it and it worked well at what it did - but WordPress it ain't.

In truth, if people take sustained, significant action in pursuit of an identified goal then they will eventually tend to attain their goals.

The PNE offer is now closed anyway. I am sure that if the current buyers use the toolset in a concerted manner in pursuit of goals compatible with the scope of the offering that they will have a decent chance of meeting those goals. Biggest problem is that people do not stick to stuff. We all see that all the time. :(

as5um In truth, the question is not whether other people make money with a tool but whether given what you see and know you think YOU can make money. Is the offer right for YOU.
 
The oft negected truth is that websites will make you no money at all!
The money will come from you driving the right eyeballs at the sites which carry profitable offers from you to your visitors.
The websites themselves are just the platform upon which you make offers.
Given what you can see of the sites can you see yourself making the kind of offers you want to make to your prospects and clients on sites such as the PNE ones, or WordPress, Joomla, or hard-core HTML?

There's other considerations to be made, such as support, training, content delivery and such, but your site visitors will come to your sites, so the look, feel and function MUST meet your own desires for a website platform because you can't usually change it after you made your choice. ;)
Of course you can use more than one site platform, but I bet that most micro business marketers do not, in the end, make the investment in learning about more than one platform and site style.
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