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Will Article Builder pass this test?
« on: April 16, 2012, 01:28:02 AM »
Hey guys,

I already have The Best Spinner and Thrifty Content, and I've been thinking about buying into Article Builder for a while now, but I want to know that I'll be getting my money's worth.

I just want to know one thing, using the following plagiarism checker, how unique is an article generated with Article Builder?

smallseotools[dot]com/plagiarism-checker/

The little plagiarism checker I quoted above checks directly against Google's Search engine and there have been times when an article that passes Copyscape with no duplicates shows up with several duplicates on this checker. If I'm going to use Article Builder, I'd really want it to pass this checker as well.

Can anyone give maybe 1 or 2 articles made with Article Builder a quick run through on this checker and post the percentage of uniqueness?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Will Article Builder pass this test?
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2012, 02:06:16 AM »
There is no reason to expect that any output from ArticleBuilder will not have any part of it available somewhere on the internet. In fact I can say that pretty much any article generated by AB will have some of its words available in another article somewhere else - but each article generated will be unique. IIRC Jon says that no two articles will be more than 25% similar.

Your question seems to presuppose a lack of knowledge about how the innerneds work and how content on the innerneds gets to be ranked,

There is no magic bullet conferred by having content that a particular tool does not find parts of elsewhere on the internet.
There is no 'duplicate content penalty'
The internet is built of content available in more than one place.

BUT

We can note that search engines do not seek to return results to users that are all duplicates of each other. Thus, we make an effort to provide our readers with content differentiated from other material. ArticleBuilder does this very well.

So, a question that you might want to ask, one that is germane, one that actually helps in making your business choice is this:
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'I understand that ArticleBuilder content is built from a database of highly spun building block paragraphs and thus it is inevitable that some parts of some building blocks will have been used elsewhere before BUT does this cause any issues with getting pages ranked?'

My answer would be that the content produced by AB is getting ranked all the time on thousands, if not millions, of pages and that is the true test of the validity of the tool. BUT if you do not build backlinks to your pages, do not market your site then absolutely unique or not, your pages will not get ranked and will not be read.

So, if you want practically limitless amounts of content practically for free then buy one or more ArticleBuilder seats, ;)

Re: Will Article Builder pass this test?
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2012, 09:48:28 AM »
My answer would be that the content produced by AB is getting ranked all the time on thousands, if not millions, of pages and that is the true test of the validity of the tool. BUT if you do not build backlinks to your pages, do not market your site then absolutely unique or not, your pages will not get ranked and will not be read.

Getting indexed and getting ranked are two totally different statements.  One suggests Google discovered unique content not found elsewhere on the web and ranked it for the relevant keywords.  Getting indexed indicates Google found the page and included it somewhere in the results.   All pages included in the Google index are "ranked" but irrelevant if not on the first few pages of search engine results where the majority of searchers view.  Statistics show just under half of searchers will click on the first link (#1 spot) of search results.  By the time they get to spot #8 you're looking at less than 1% of searchers clicking on that link.  So ranking off page 1 has little to no significant value.  Even ranking #10 on page one will earn you little to no traffic.

Having said all of that; AB articles have no keyword focus, few unique sentences when compared to the Google index and very limited paragraph structuring.  Many paragraphs are one sentence. 

Google judges unique content as content not found elsewhere.  It reads pages in snippets and not entirety.  It compares those snippets to snippets in the Google index.  AB articles are unique only in the sense that no two AB articles of the same size will share more than 25% of the same snippets.  Size is an important qualifier because if you compare a 300 word article to a 1000 word article there is a good chance you'll find 50% or more duplicate snippets.  Because Google uses snippets from every website it indexes there is little argument that practically all snippets found in AB articles are already indexed on the web.  If you search sentence by sentence in quotes in Google there is a very good chance you won't find a single sentence unique from your AB article when compared to the entire Google index.

To suggest backlinks will induce Google to rank broad, no focus, generic articles shows an incomplete knowledge of Google.  While a unique, well written long tail keyword focused article can rank #1 without a single backlink for a long tail phrase; a broad generic article without any keyword focus won't rank for anything even with a million backlinks. 

Re: Will Article Builder pass this test?
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2012, 11:27:12 AM »
The purpose of AB articles (for me, at least) is not to create unique content for my money sites (the ones I build to earn an income) but for use in creating backlinks.  AB articles are perfect for this!  Do you have a Wordpress.com blog?  A HubPage account?  A Squidoo account?  Other social media accounts?  Add AB articles to them, and include backlinks in each article to your money sites.  You'll save money and time because you don't have to pay someone to write articles for you, and you have access to articles that are created almost instantly.

When I use AB articles for this purpose, I don't worry about how unique they are, if they will pass Copyscape, etc.  They are super simple to generate, and they plain work!

Re: Will Article Builder pass this test?
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2012, 11:18:23 PM »
Hey guys! Thanks for the inputs.

That was just about what I was expecting. I was really only planning to use AB for link building, but the way it is marketed on the front page really makes it sound like it will create unique articles - it may have set my hopes a little too high.

Thing is, I do need unique articles. I have a layer of about 70+ blogs that only use absolutely unique content that link directly to our money sites. These market the money sites, and are themselves money sites in their own right (we earn from them and we do try to rank them), but most importantly, they're the ones being exposed to the more massive link building experiments and paid link building services to act as the buffer against Google's penalties. When they go down, it's no problem, the real money sites stay up and continue to rank, and we learn what is good and what isn't, as well as what we can use directly on the real money sites and what we should never even try.

So much for cost cutting, I guess I'll have to stick to hiring writers for our unique content.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2012, 11:22:35 PM by abrtn00101 »

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Re: Will Article Builder pass this test?
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2012, 11:59:49 PM »
Between unique and duplicate, there is also something that has low saturation.

Simply rewriting can also provide unique articles easier and faster.

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« Last Edit: April 19, 2012, 02:10:06 AM by snm »

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Re: Will Article Builder pass this test?
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2012, 12:39:05 AM »
To suggest backlinks will induce Google to rank broad, no focus, generic articles shows an incomplete knowledge of Google.  While a unique, well written long tail keyword focused article can rank #1 without a single backlink for a long tail phrase; a broad generic article without any keyword focus won't rank for anything even with a million backlinks. 

Try it and see. ;)

Yes, thanks. I am aware of the difference between ranking and indexation and chose the words appropriately.
The reason you need links is to show that the content has value. No links means that people do not value the content. If people do not value the content then search engines will tend to not do so either.

Also, sorry, I tend to make assumptions about what people know. For example, I know that it is easy to alter the keyword impact of an article by changing keywords to suit one's purpose, thus 'dog' can become 'puppy' or 'poodle'. I do not think of that as rewriting but is sure as anything changes the impact of an article.

I understand that writing a single long term keyword article CAN but not WILL get well ranked with very little linking - on sites that are already getting good support from SEs but much less likely on the vast majority of sites out there. But that is a very different proposition, is it not? It is a different use case, yes? Sure as hell it COSTS differently, yes? Budget constraints mean that writing all our content from the ground up is not an option for most people in most use cases.

Using AB content as a supplement to other content and backlinked is almost free and, as I previously described it, very effective.

abrtn00101: Try using AB in the role you described, see what happens. There is nothing to lose and, from what I see, it is pretty close to an ideal use case for AB content. Don't even think of building whole sites out of AB material, but think of it like the pasta in a carbonara!  You need some eggs, bacon and Parmesan to make a tasty meal. Pasta on its own gets boring fast but a meal of carbonara sauce devoid of pasta would be almost inedible. :)
« Last Edit: April 19, 2012, 10:02:23 PM by andrewwilson »

Re: Will Article Builder pass this test?
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2012, 05:07:02 AM »
Andrew - Isn't what you build the wordpress sites you sell. 'built for you:--'


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Re: Will Article Builder pass this test?
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2012, 06:06:10 AM »
Yes, I use ArticleBuilder content but it is not the only content, nor should it be. I much prefer pasta carbonara to plain pasta.

I used to love to have pasta carbonara after a night of partying. Perfect breakfast -I reckon I'm not the only one, quite a few bars here sell it in the mornings along with their other breakfasty stuff. ;)

I started using AB again after doing some experiments to see if the techniques in AB still worked after many years - they did so I do.

Re: Will Article Builder pass this test?
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2012, 07:23:52 AM »
AB articles are perfect for this!  Do you have a Wordpress.com blog?  A HubPage account?  A Squidoo account?  Other social media accounts?

I personally know several people lose their aged HubPage accounts following this advice.  I know many Squidoo lenses that have removed for spam following this advice.  On WU blogs it's a crapshoot if your blog will live using AB articles. 

Be careful posting AB articles on accounts you wish to keep.  If just SENuke accounts that you can make by the thousands then who cares.  Just posting the warning in case someone stumbles on this and thinks AB is good for their personal or aged accounts.  Good chance you'll suffer a ban. 

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Re: Will Article Builder pass this test?
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2012, 10:23:21 PM »
I am not an AB member because I don't need content. But I am surprised at this.

AB would have perhaps 3000 or so members. Statistics say there  would be about 1500 active users of AB content really. It could be much lower. Not all of them are using the same articles. And many are spinning these articles. And there are many many articles.

I am really surprised at the grave warning.

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Re: Will Article Builder pass this test?
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2012, 12:21:49 AM »
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I personally know several people lose their aged HubPage accounts following this advice.  I know many Squidoo lenses that have removed for spam following this advice.  On WU blogs it's a crapshoot if your blog will live using AB articles. 

Be careful posting AB articles on accounts you wish to keep.  If just SENuke accounts that you can make by the thousands then who cares.  Just posting the warning in case someone stumbles on this and thinks AB is good for their personal or aged accounts.  Good chance you'll suffer a ban. 


The thing is that there are many Web 2.0/free blogs/free website builder properties that are not so strict. Hubpages are ultra strict, I would but nothing other than copyscape passing decent content on hubpages, squidoo has been locking accounts lately, and we know that wordpress.com is trigger happy for banning accounts. However, there are so many other options - such as this infographic that is well-shared among many forums.

http://i39.tinypic.com/2qjyh7b.jpg

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Re: Will Article Builder pass this test?
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2012, 03:40:56 AM »
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I personally know several people lose their aged HubPage accounts following this advice.  I know many Squidoo lenses that have removed for spam following this advice.  On WU blogs it's a crapshoot if your blog will live using AB articles. 

Be careful posting AB articles on accounts you wish to keep.  If just SENuke accounts that you can make by the thousands then who cares.  Just posting the warning in case someone stumbles on this and thinks AB is good for their personal or aged accounts.  Good chance you'll suffer a ban. 


The thing is that there are many Web 2.0/free blogs/free website builder properties that are not so strict. Hubpages are ultra strict, I would but nothing other than copyscape passing decent content on hubpages, squidoo has been locking accounts lately, and we know that wordpress.com is trigger happy for banning accounts. However, there are so many other options - such as this infographic that is well-shared among many forums.

http://i39.tinypic.com/2qjyh7b.jpg


That was your infographic wasn't it? Has it gone viral?

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Re: Will Article Builder pass this test?
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2012, 06:02:35 AM »
I have to confess to being a little 'sceptical' that the generality of people using AB content on parasite hosting, including Squidoo or Hubpages are seeing accounts closed for that reason. For a start, how would the account holders know?

I'd be willing to lay odds that closed accounts, where they arise, get closed for more than one reason. It might even be that Copyscape or similar is used as a decision aid, but I frankly do not think it is likely to be used on its own and if that is the case, the inference to be drawn is simply that one needs to have copy that, for all time into the future will not appear in Copyscape and THAT makes no sense at all.

BUT, if an account was larded up with commercial intent links, was obviously autoposted, did not add value to the estate overall then what is going to happen? It will not have been the source of the content that was the issue but the other stuff going around it.

It is the responsibility of each person to make choices about how they manage their content and SEM in general, but I am entirely happy to use AB content as part of the content on a site (or parasite hosted pages) that has value to search engines, readers and estate owners.

If all the submissions I got on my sites were at the level of AB content then as a site owner encouraging the use of user generated content (UGC) I'd be a happy man because I'd know that the overall level of submissions to my sites had risen.

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Re: Will Article Builder pass this test?
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2012, 10:23:59 PM »
This is so true. If you paid per article, to have the quality and ability that AB provides it would cost you a pretty penny! AB has allowed me to focus on other areas in my SEO endeavors, knowing that my articles are ready at the click of a mouse. I just wish we had more verity in selections available.