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A new metaphor for a DEEPER Article Builder
« on: October 31, 2011, 07:08:13 PM »
I'm largely happy with Article Builder, but I can see it croaking the deeper we need to get in to topics.

Currently it's much like a random pool of tips, which is fine for entry level articles.

but it could moderately easily be made in to something much more sophisticated with very little extra work.

The largest issue is there can never be enough content to fill every sub topic. It would be billions of articles.

so

1) We need to be able to search and select "tips" by keyword or parent topic.

Once we can search by tag/keyword, instead of the RANDOM approach it seems to have, where I have no idea when it will re-use the same "targeted" tips, because I a) have no idea how many it has (if any) and b) if I have already had them in a previous article or not, then we can start to build our articles to a much deeper level, without having to manually edit or re-write.
We simple only search and select the tip areas that fit our intent!

This could even be tracked per user, so we know we have already used it, although that is a lot more overhead.
But at least it would be possible now. It's hard to track randomness ;-)

Of course it needs to work in the old style too, as I'm sure 50% of users just want any old article as filler.

But by allowing us to search and select by tag/keyword we could make use of some very excellent material hiding inside the article builder pool.

I hope others will share my excitement for going deeper!

Peter

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Re: A new metaphor for a DEEPER Article Builder
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2011, 07:12:30 PM »
Am I missing something? How is what you're describing different from just putting your keywords into the keywords box below the category when generating articles?

Re: A new metaphor for a DEEPER Article Builder
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2011, 03:18:11 AM »
Jonathan - If I understand correctly, Peter wants the option to have articles built based on an entered keyword phrase, instead of (or in addition to) Categories and Sub-Categories.  This is a great idea, and I was going to suggest it.

For example, I have come across great information on food in the weight loss category that could very easily be used in cooking. This content on food would likely never be found by someone who is searching in "Cooking" because it is in "Weight Loss."  But having the ability to search ALL categories, based on a keyword, would open up the possibility for more articles, because the snippets could now be pulled from multiple categories.

Re: A new metaphor for a DEEPER Article Builder
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2011, 03:53:41 AM »
If that would be the case, then I am pro!

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Re: A new metaphor for a DEEPER Article Builder
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2011, 04:19:22 AM »
Ah, gotcha.

Re: A new metaphor for a DEEPER Article Builder
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2011, 08:23:23 AM »
Any chance you can add the option to have articles built based on an entered keyword instead of a category?  (Please know that I am not asking you to remove the categories, just add an additional way to build articles.)

Re: A new metaphor for a DEEPER Article Builder
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2011, 03:22:15 AM »
Yes cross refferencing would be a good idea.

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Re: A new metaphor for a DEEPER Article Builder
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2011, 08:04:37 AM »
Am I missing something? How is what you're describing different from just putting your keywords into the keywords box below the category when generating articles?

I think that he is after this:

Instead of posting a category first, which straight away reduces the volume of content available, why not enable us to start with a keyword that is used across the entire AB database.

Sometimes one will do better by starting off with a category and drilling into the category but sometimes a keyword search will give better results, particularly as the database grows in size. Here's a for-instance:

I am looking for recipes. Right now I might go into 'cooking' and set 'recipes' as a keyword filter to get 'tips'.
However the chances are that there are going to be recipes under the category 'dieting' as well. If we went only into the 'cooking¨' category we'd miss out on all the fine content available under dieting. And, of course, there will be recipe tips in other categories too.
The only other way to do it is to try to tag each tip as to its content but that'd be a gargantuan task.